Alright, this is not going to be a pretty post. And for that, I apologize but it is time that I break the silence. I have tried to live my life as …if someone spreads lies then people will not believe it.
The Ohana wall has always been a place that we try and keep it happy and positive. The fight that I have been dealing with for a yr has not ONCE been posted, but I guess it is time.
Over a year ago, Domino Effect Rescue ranch was caught posting a flyer at Tractor Supply stating that Ohana Rescue was being investigated for fraud. Really??? I hadnt heard a thing about this, but knew right away that I was gonna to be in for a fight.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have never posted a flyer against you. Where is your flyer to prove that you are telling the truth.
You see, this is not the first time that they have called and placed complaints against Ohana.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have NEVER placed a complaint against Ohana. Where are your documentations proving that I have placed complaints against you?
Why, some might ask, well because they feel that all their legal issues are due to Ohana calling in complaints against them.
Carrie Young you are a liar. We had 1 legal issue of owing someone $250 in which we have paid them in full. This had NOTHING to do with YOU and I testified to that under oath.
Channel 10 news investigated them, it just goes on and on their troubles.
Carrie Young you are a liar. Channel 10 news investigated us after YOU, Ted Koran, Karen Koran, Sandy Woods, Maryann Tobin, and Nikki Tobin told Mike Deeson LIES. Yes, I remember, Ted Koran posted a picture stating that we were starving horses to death. BUT the picture he posted was of 2 different horses. He also neglected to mention that he admitted to feeding Shia in the sand until he colicked.
The picture below is 2 different horses. Ted Koran said that it was before and after pictures of Shia. This is a picture of Shia and Sonny. He used this picture to tell government officials that we starved Shia to death. Truth of the matter is that he admitted to feeding Shia grain in the sand at the back fence line where we could not see him until Shia colicked.
Oh yes, and because we testified at the BOCC to try and change the laws in Hernando County for the horses. Trying to get a hoof limit on an acre.
Carrie Young you are a liar. If you were simply trying to get a hoof limit law, then you would not have needed to use our organization as an example.
So let me start at the beginning. I, Carrie Young, have been on disablity for two and half yrs. (I have always worked until my health took a turn for the worse. I was diagnosed with a few diseases.) A disabilty that is “SILENT” Chronic fatigue, and fymbermalgia,and a few other little issues.. I have good days and I have bad days. When there are good days, I can function normal, when there are bad days I have to stay in bed or spend a good part of it in bed.
FIBROMYALGIA is a disease that is silent alright. It takes at least 5 years to get a proper diagnosis because there are so many symptoms that mimic other diseases. A diagnosis can only be given by physical examination of pressure points and the patient stating if it is tender in these areas. There are no ultrasounds, CT scans, or x-rays that can detect this disease. It is simply word of mouth from the patient. Fibromyalgia is not typically a disease that permanently debilitates people and can be regulated with proper diet and medications. Only an extreme case with severe debilitation would require one to be diagnosed with permanent disability. And like I mentioned before, this can only be detected by one’s history of how severe their condition or pain is.
With all the volunteers here, this makes Ohana be able to still function as a safe haven for the horses.
Days I have worked myself sick, now to the normal person, that could amount to ten hours straight, to a person that has SILENT diseases, this could mean two hours. But nevertheless, it happens. Those who suffer from this disease will and can understand this, and will be able to understand just how much these horses mean to me, because my health is often forgot about and I put my heart into it…sleeping in stalls with sick horses..but wait, I am laying down reading a book to a sick horse…resting…disabilities does NOT say where you can lie down.
I know my body and my limits, and I know when to stop, and if there is a sick horse here, and I need to sleep in a stall I will. SO SUE ME!!!
Well that is just what happened!! I am being ACCUSED of fraud (civil, not criminal) by social security because Domino Effect called and stated I ride horses, I groom horses, I bath horses, I train horses, I break horses…I break up two dangerous stallions single handedly and I run this HUGE WELL KNOWN Horse rescue…BY MYSELF.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I NEVER INITIATED a call to SSI. I told the investigator that I had NO recollection that you were on disability. I also told her that Carrie Young does NOT appear to be disabled nor have I ever seen her in a wheelchair or use assisted devices. I told her that I have seen you active on FB talking about the activities you do on a daily basis and seeing pictures of the things that Social Security claims you said that you could NOT do.
So for the last two days I have been sitting in court, without an attorney fighting for my reputation. You know I say this, take away the few dollars I get from disability, but I am not a fraud. I have doctors letters, statements from ADA about the SILENT DISEASE that I suffer from. I have been fighting this by myself for a yr, writing briefs, filing motions, acting as my own attorney. HEY WHY NOT HIRE AN ATTORNEY some might ask. Sounded good a lot of times, so did giving up, or settling out of court, but then I look into the eyes of the horses that are here. So needless to say, I am fighting this alone. Oh yes, I could most likely borrow the monies from my parents, but would have to pay it back, and in doing that, I would still have to QUIT rescueing horses…because YES I get a disability check but instead of using it for say…tv service, eating out, buying clothes, every dime goes to the horses. So paying back a loan would take from the horses. So I sit alone in my fear of fighting the devil, Domino Effect…I know the Lord is carrying me, but sometimes this battle gets pretty ugly between good and evil.
Carrie Young I am here to tell the truth and that happens to be your WORST NIGHTMARE, but does not classify me as the devil, LOL.
So there I sit yesterday in court, cross examing Dinelle Ashcraft, acting as my own attorney, listening to her tell the judge that they spend 700 a week to feed the horses, how much her and her husband do for the horses.
My statement to be exact: I was asked how much we spent to feed the horses when we had on average 25 horses. I told them approximately $700 and this is the truth. I look forward to seeing those transcripts Carrie Young.
That they have a trainer in 4 days a week to train the untrained horses…
Carrie Young you are a liar. I said that we have a trainer that comes out 1 day a week to work with the horses and to work with me.
The judge asked her…YOU DO NOT LIKE CARRIE YOUNG, DO YOU, she replied NO, YOU DO NOT CARE FOR CARRIE YOUNG, DO YOU, she replied NO, YOU BLAME CARRIE YOUNG FOR ALL YOUR LEGAL ISSUES, DONT YOU, she replied YES, her and her friend.
Carrie Young you are a liar. He asked me if I blamed you for losing 1 court battle. I told him NO that you had nothing to do with it. PLEASE be sure to posts those transcripts, so that we can document the TRUTH!!!
I left it alone, for I felt that was perfect. The judge was also impressed when Dinelle said she could move a roll 900 lbs of hay alone.
Carrie Young YOU are telling the TRUTH!!! It was quite humorous that the white collar world didn’t have a clue as to rural mechanics. I am NOT a big girl by any means, but I absolutely can push a 900 pound roll of hay. I didn’t realize this was a difficult task. I guess I have the hand of God helping me and just thought that I was working alone.
The last thing that the judge said to Dinelle Ashcraft was…DO NOT DISCUSS THIS CASE…..well, we all know that Dinelle is above the law.
Carrie Young you are a liar. He told me NOT to discuss the case with the witnesses or the witnesses waiting in the waiting room before I left. Once again, I look forward to seeing the documentation of those transcripts proving what was said. I always have documentation to prove the truth. How come you NEVER have documentation proving that anything I say is a lie???
Tonight Dinelle is doing what she does best…spinmaster…sending links to her newest blog…
Carrie Young is telling the TRUTH!!! I do keep all information and documentation of many horrible deeds by Carrie Young and others affiliated in their hate group against us.
Dinelle stating that she spent all day in court yesterday testifying against Carrie Young, because Carrie Young told Social Security she used a wheelchair..SAY WHAT?
First of all, I have fymberlagia, and chronic fatigue, and a few other SILENT DISEASES, no where did I ever say I used a wheel chair..and didnt the judge tell her not to discuss this until case?
So I am putting it out there…I am being ACCUSED by social security for fraud. Fraud because I told them I spend a lot of time lieing down. No where did I put that I stayed in bed 10 hours a day, or used a wheelchair. No where did I say I did not have good days or bad days. I am being ACCUSED because Dinelle Ashcraft from Domino Effect Rescue spends everyday trying to close down Ohana, while we spend everyday trying to keep it open.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have done NOTHING to shut you down, you can NOT honestly say the same. Where is your proof? I actually felt sorry for you the other day and wanted to leave you alone. I would have left you alone until you lied under oath, used the hearing as a way to smear us, and then called us the devil on Beverly Levitt’s post. Bob and I travel past your place while delivering and picking up horses. I don’t have time to stalk you in my busy schedule with school and taking care of the horses. I AM NOT DISABLED and my plate is FULL. I am NOT a liar and I will NOT tolerate your lies any more. If you want me out of your life, then stop lying, stop harassing and stalking me, stop personal messaging lies to my Facebook friends, stop calling agencies against us, and keep my name out of your mouth.
The case will not be settled until after the transcripts are produced to me giving me 30 days to write my closing brief, at which time the judge will make his decision..If I screwed up this case by acting as my own attorney, that is ok, the horses are still eating, and still being loved on and they still have a safe haven…oh yes, the truck that was donated to me, Domino told social security that I was draining the rescue of donations to make the payments on the brand new truck, oh and rumor has it Ohana pays close to 3500.00 a month for this piece of property… all of which I have proof is a lie.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I had NO idea that you were on disability. I know NO personal information about your overhead or personal vehicles. This is why my testimony was weak because I know absolutely NOTHING about your personal life because I avoid you at all cost.
Whatever the outcome, disability will never be in my life again. If I have to take pain pills every day to overcome the pain that I will have to live with because I wont have time to rest, then that is what it will be….I am not a fraud, I have been on the back of a horse two times in the last two yrs…GOOD DAYS….I wonder what I can do with taking pain pills everyday. Run two horse rescues at the same time? As it is now, I take pain pills when I get up and there is no chronic fatigue hitting me, because if I have CFS during the day and I take a pain pill for the FMS, then I am out like a light…
So next into this mess, walks a dear friend of Domino, a woman by the name of Hannah Farrell. ( Gentle Souls Rescue) She starts spreading rumors, calling people around the state trying to get others to call in and make false allegations… now everything I am posting, I have screen shots of, and phone calls from those that know that I am not a fraud to forewarn me of what is being done behind my back, in an attempt to close down Ohana Rescue.
Where is your proof Carrie Young???
They say that when you do good, you ALWAYS have evil at your back door.
WRONG, when you hurt people and lie about them and your daily events, it comes back on you full circle. Bad things are NOT happening to you because you are doing good, bad things are happening to you because you are a liar.
Many close to me know what is going on in my life, but now I am putting it out there for the world to know. I Carrie Young have lived my life being honest, compassionate, and caring, and I will not stop living my life helping the horses because there are a bunch of trouble makers out there.
I am NOT a troublemaker, BUT I have had trouble made for me by you for a long time. I have had enough and will NOT tolerate your lies any more.
Notice how you always play the victim and act like everyone is always out to get you? Just like you went in and took those horses from Archers without the owner knowing and then took the glory as if you saved the day. And then took the liberty to trash that rescue and put them beneath your feet.
If people feel that they can no longer trust me because I am being ACCUSED of being a fraud, then I have not lived my life right, because those that know me, know I would not do something as this.
I, Carrie Young am fighting a very evil entity right now, and I will say this…THERE ARE ONLY ONE SET OF FOOT PRINTS IN THE SAND, and what happens is HIS way, I DO NOT NEED MY DISABILTY CHECK TO KEEP OHANA OPEN.
I honestly believe that you have a great opportunity to succeed. You have a beautiful piece of property, good support, and seem to be doing well. I do NOT understand why you feel it is necessary to tear others down around you. I do NOT understand why you feel the need to lie about others and yourself. You would have a lot less animosity in your life if you would just mind your own business and stop trying to hurt everyone.
On February 19, 2014, a Social Security Fraud investigator contacted my husband, Robert Ashcraft by phone. She was investigating Carrie Young. She called while he was in the hospital waiting to undergo open-heart surgery. Considering the life-threatening situation that Bob was in, he referred her to me.
She then called my phone. I was in class at the time and walked outside to answer the phone. The investigator explained to me that Carrie Young was under investigation for Social Security fraud. She asked me if I knew that Carrie Young was on disability. I told her that I did not. She asked me if I had ever seen Carrie Young in a wheelchair or using assisted devices to get around. I told her that I have not. She told me that Carrie Young has been on disability since 2009. She went up for a review at the beginning of 2013. She said that Carrie Young has been under investigation for 2 years. They have done a full investigation on her including video footage, photographs, and information that led them to believe that Carrie Young is not eligible to receive Social Security disability. During her review they asked Carrie Young if she took care of animals. Carrie denied caring for any animals. She said that she had good days and bad days. On her bad days she would lie around in bed or read a book.
The investigator asked me a lot of questions about my relationship with Carrie Young. She told me that she found Bob and I on the Internet. During her research against Carrie Young she found out that Carrie Young is president of Ohana Horse Rescue. She found a blog with documentation of Carrie Young attacking our rescue and supporting evidence of Carrie Young trying to shut our organization down.
Carrie Young is president of Ohana Rescue
The investigator contacted me for several different reasons. She was hoping that I had pertinent information for her that would be helpful in court. More importantly, she asked if I would testify to the daily activities involved in running a rescue, since we own a similar organization as Carrie Young. I agreed to give her my help.
She asked me how I met Carrie Young. I told her that I first knew of Carrie Young from Facebook. My first memory of Carrie Young was back when she moved from Hudson, Florida to North Port, Florida. I was a friend of hers on Facebook. I didn’t pay too much attention to her page because of the drama and hateful comments that surrounded it. I do remember, however, her posting that she was closing the rescue down temporarily while she regrouped.
She was in North Port for several months. She contacted me through a personal message one day asking me if I would help her find property up here in Brooksville. She and Allan were relocating up this way. I agreed that I would look around for her. She contacted me several weeks later and told me that she had found a place and would be moving. I had found out later from several people that she left North Port in the middle of the night to avoid confrontation.
Carrie Young and Allan Wilson relocated to Brooksville, Florida back in August 2011. Bob sent them a friendly invite to come see us and meet for the first time. When they arrived, I was busy with another family who came for a visit to spend time with the horses. Bob spent a few hours showing them around and getting to know them.
Later that evening Bob and a friend went to Ohana’s. She gave him a box of old medical supplies. I posted pictures on Facebook that evening. Allan Wilson and friends affiliated with Ohana Rescue started posting negative comments on my pictures. I deleted and blocked both Carrie and Allan from my page. Carrie called Bob asking why I deleted them. She said, “you don’t understand who you are dealing with, I’m a professional.” I refused to allow them back on my page after their behavior. The following Monday Hernando Animal Control arrived at our place due to a complaint for having too many hoofed animals on our property. We were NOT in violation, as we are 100% agriculture and do NOT have a hoof limit where we live. Shortly after this incident, Carrie Young petitioned the Board of County Commissioners trying to change the zoning laws in Hernando County. Due to many problems we have had with Carrie Young and others affiliated with her, we have made it our mission to steer clear of this group.
The Social Security Investigator sent me an application to fill out about my affiliation with Carrie Young.
She specifically asked me how I knew her and how often I have seen her per year. I told the investigator that I have seen Carrie Young 6-12 times per year. I have seen her many times at Ted Koran and Tom Logsdon’s property, who are neighbors that live on both sides of me. I have seen her at the Tractor Supply, Wagon Wheel Feed, and Dollar General Store. We have also seen Carrie Young walking across her property while we were passing by with the truck and trailer to either pick up horses or deliver them to their new homes. It’s a pretty small town, so unfortunately it’s hard to avoid someone completely, especially when the neighbors affiliated with Carrie Young with the hate group against us. Besides these specific times of seeing Carrie Young with my own two eyes, I have seen her often on the public network, Facebook. Carrie Young has posted hundreds of posts and pictures notifying the public of her busy days and the activities that she has performed at Ohana Rescue.
The Social Security Investigator asked me if I have ever seen her walk with an assisted device. I laughed and told her, “absolutely NOT. I had NO recollection that she had any disability at all.
More specifically, she asked me if I had ever seen Carrie Young do the following activities:
1. Walk or walk on uneven pavement.
2. Lift objects.
3. Reaching her arms overhead.
4. Use her hands and fingers.
5. Work or do daily activities with animals of Ohana.
6. Take care of pets.
7. Manage employees or volunteers.
8. Write a blog.
9. Manage a fundraiser.
10. Feed, ride, or groom horses.
11. Pick up horses.
12. Have I seen her drive?
13. Able to engage in routine activities such as showering and housework.
14. Does not have a normal life.
15. Has a problem being around people.
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I told her that I have seen Carrie Young with my own two eyes:
Climb steps:
I have seen her drive away from Dollar General Store and Bob has seen her pull up and get out of her car on a rescue mission.
I also told her that I have seen Carrie Young partake in these activities through pictures that she has posted publicly on Facebook
Walk or walk on uneven pavement.
Carrie Young walking on uneven pavement & handling horses
Carrie Young using her hands & fingers with scissors
Carrie Young using her hands & fingers to braid a tail
Carrie Young pinching with her hands & fingers
Carrie Young squatting
Carrie Young handling horses & lifting arms and hands over her head
Carrie lifting a child in one arm & lifting her arm above her head
Carrie Young running a fundraiser & lifting her arms above her head
Carrie Young holding up a gun with her arms and using her fingers to pull the trigger
Carrie Young holding the weight of the horses leg back for the vet, Steve Miller.
Carrie Young mounting horses
Carrie riding horses
Carrie Young supporting a horse across her legs
Carrie Young driving a tractor
A few weeks later the investigator sent me a subpoena to appear in court. She also sent me an email telling me what other witnesses would be testifying.
She also told me that Carrie Young told the judge that she was in fear for her life and her safety because I would be testifying against her. I had to laugh. I have NEVER threatened Carrie Young or done anything physical to hurt her or anyone else for that matter.
She once stated “I have an uncle who is a US Senator who tends to keep me skeeky clean.”
We arrived at the Social Security Administration on March 25, 2014, at 9:00 am in the morning.
The judge and the attorney investigator would be appearing on a TV screen because they live out-of-state in Maryland. We sat in the waiting room with the other witnesses against Carrie Young all day until almost 3:00 in the afternoon. Allan came out shortly before lunch. He looked pretty upset. He walked out of the building and never came back the rest of the day we were there.
Around 3:00 it was my turn to testify. I walked into a small room about the size of a walk-in closet. Carrie Young was sitting at the table. There was also a mediator in the room with us. In front of us was a TV screen showing both the judge and the Social Security Attorney. Carrie was representing herself and was there to cross-examine any witness against her.
My main purpose for testifying was to explain in detail to the judge the normal, daily activities that pertain to running a horse rescue. After each set of questions asked by the Social Security Attorney, Carrie Young asked her questions. Each set of questions that Carrie Young asked me had absolutely nothing to do with the questions the Social Security Attorney asked me.
She asked me a set of questions about how we met, the box of medication she gave, Allan posting negative comments, and me blocking her. I agreed affirmatively to all the questions.
She asked me questions about a particular incident where Allan Wilson and Bob had an altercation at Wagon Wheel Feed. I agreed that I remembered this incident, but I was waiting in the truck and I could not testify to something I had not seen.
She asked me a set of questions about why I was president of the Domino Effect and not Bob. The Social Security Attorney and the judge kept telling her that her questions were irrelevant. She said that they were leading up to another question. She was trying to implicate that Bob would be facing fraud charges and this is why we changed positions. I told her absolutely not. We simply changed positions after the DOA explained to us the mistake we had made and informed us the correct way to do the paperwork to correct this situation. I do believe that if DOA honestly thought we had done anything criminal; they possibly would have taken action. Instead the DOA was very happy to direct us on the right path to legalize our operation and resolve the matter.
After about the fourth or fifth set of questions that Carrie Young asked me, the judge finally told her that he did NOT care about what happens in the Domino Effect. He said this trial is NOT about Domino Effect, it’s about Carrie Young.
Carrie Young asked, “isn’t it true that you have called many agencies against Ohana Rescue. I said, “Absolutely NOT. I have never called any agency against Ohana Rescue or anyone else affiliated with the hate group against us. It is NOT my character to do such a thing.” The judge asked if I was responsible for making the complaint against Carrie Young 2 years ago. I said, “Absolutely NOT, I had NO recollection that Carrie Young was on disability until informed by the Social Security Fraud Investigator on February 19, 2014. At this point, the investigator stepped up to the stand and verified that she did indeed call upon us for our help. She verified that she found us through my blog page on the Internet. She also verified that she served me a subpoena to testify against Carrie Young.
The Social Security Attorney asked me a series of questions about the things I had seen on Facebook about public photographs and posts. I told her I made it my business to know what Carrie Young was up to due to the many attacks by her and others affiliated with her. She asked me specifically what kind of pictures I had seen and what kind of posts I have read.
It was Carrie Young’s turn to cross-examine. Carrie asked, “have you ever been to my house.” I said “no.” She said, “have you ever been in my house.” I said “no.” She said, “have you ever seen me at my computer.” I said “no.” She says, “then how do you know that it is me posting on Facebook.” I said, “I don’t.”
Apparently before I came in to testify, this discussion had already been discussed. They found the FB information irrelevant as evidence because Carrie Young is denying that she is responsible for posting anything on FB.
Oh Lord, thought fog for a second. Carrie’s motto is “I don’t have to prove that I am telling the truth, YOU have to prove that I am lying.”
I laughed. I just about lost control of my mouth at this point. Carrie Young (or should I say an imposter) has posted pictures and status posts referring to herself in the “first person” for the past 4 years that I have known her on Facebook. I guess I have been wrong all this time to assume that these postings are posts by Carrie Young. She has denied to be participating in “any” activity of running the rescue. She has denied that any of the posts on her site stating that she has done physical activity at the rescue is true. She denied that she has written any of these posts. Okay, so let me step outside my box for a moment. How is it that an imposter has used her name and posting lies about her for 4 years on Facebook and no one has ever caught on to this, not even Carrie. Forgive me Lord, some things my mind just cannot compute.
I explained in detail to the Social Security Attorney about several encounters that I had with Carrie Young. I told her that on one occasion back in May 2013, she and Allan were visiting Tom Logsdon. They just so happened to visit on the very day we were burying a horse we lost to a colon twist. I caught Allan Wilson out of the corner of my eye taking pictures of Bob. I walked towards him taking pictures of him taking pictures. He pulled the camera out of sight and I never captured a picture of him with his camera. She denied this happened as well.
I also explained in detail another incident that occurred in November 2013. Ted and Karen Koran were holding a public event at The Critter Place to receive support for their “pets.” Allan Wilson and Carrie Young parked outside Ted Koran’s gate. They got out of their vehicle, opened the gate, and walked up to Ted’s home about 1 acre away. Carrie also denied this incident ever happening. She said, “why would we park outside the gate when we could drive up to the house.”
The judge capped off the interview with a series of questions that all summed up the same answer. He said, “I guess it’s safe to say that you and Carrie do not get along very well.” I said, “yes, that’s right.” He said, “It’s safe to say that you avoid Carrie when at all possible.” I said, “yes, that’s right.”
I think that it’s pretty accurate to say that Carrie was trying to paint a grim picture. It was quite obvious that she was trying to discredit me as a witness. By doing this, I believe she did a great job of discrediting herself as well.
“Sometimes when mamma catches you with your hand in the cookie jar it’s better to come clean instead of digging deeper.”
It’s unclear what the judge’s decision will be in this case for several months. There will be other court hearings before the final judgment. The Social Security will be searching for more “eyewitnesses” to testify to Carrie Young’s daily activities that she performs. And Social Security plans to file an appeal if the judge rules in Carrie Young’s favor.
Some people think they can skate through life by being dishonest. They think they are in charge of making their own destiny. Eventually these people will reach a dead-end and their time will run out. I believe that everyone is accountable for his or her choices and in the end justice will prevail.
Honesty is a direct reflection of your inner character. Your actions are a reflection on your faith. Reflecting the truth in your actions is a part of being a good witness. The character plays a big role in where you go in life. When you are faithful and honest, it shows.
Luke 16:10 – “Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.” (NIV)
If you have any information that may be helpful in this case, please contact the person listed below:
Debbie Shaw, Attorney
Social Security Administration
Office of the Counsel to the Inspector General
6401 Security Boulevard, Mail Stop 3-ME-1
Baltimore, MD 21235
(410) 965-7873
(410) 966-7075 (FAX)
(443) 691-3958 BLACKBERRY
This was Carrie Young’s response:
Ohana Rescue Carrie Young
9 hours ago · Edited
Carrie States: Alright, this is not going to be a pretty post. And for that, I apologize but it is time that I break the silence. I have tried to live my life as …if someone spreads lies then people will not believe it.
The Ohana wall has always been a place that we try and keep it happy and positive. The fight that I have been dealing with for a yr has not ONCE been posted, but I guess it is time.
Over a year ago, Domino Effect Rescue ranch was caught posting a flyer at Tractor Supply stating that Ohana Rescue was being investigated for fraud. Really??? I hadnt heard a thing about this, but knew right away that I was gonna to be in for a fight.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have never posted a flyer against you. Where is your flyer to prove that you are telling the truth.
Carrie States: You see, this is not the first time that they have called and placed complaints against Ohana.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have NEVER placed a complaint against Ohana. Where are your documentations proving that I have placed complaints against you?
Carrie States: Why, some might ask, well because they feel that all their legal issues are due to Ohana calling in complaints against them.
Carrie Young you are a liar. We had 1 legal issue of owing someone $250 in which we have paid them in full. This had NOTHING to do with YOU and I testified to that under oath.
Carrie States: Channel 10 news investigated them, it just goes on and on their troubles.
Carrie Young you are a liar. Channel 10 news investigated us after YOU, Ted Koran, Karen Koran, Sandy Woods, Maryann Tobin, and Nikki Tobin told Mike Deeson LIES. Yes, I remember, Ted Koran posted a picture stating that we were starving horses to death. BUT the picture he posted was of 2 different horses. He also neglected to mention that he admitted to feeding Shia in the sand until he colicked.
The picture below is 2 different horses. Ted Koran said that it was before and after pictures of Shia. This is a picture of Shia and Sonny. He used this picture to tell government officials that we starved Shia to death. Truth of the matter is that he admitted to feeding Shia grain in the sand at the back fence line where we could not see him until Shia colicked.
Carrie States: Oh yes, and because we testified at the BOCC to try and change the laws in Hernando County for the horses. Trying to get a hoof limit on an acre.
Carrie Young you are a liar. If you were simply trying to get a hoof limit law, then you would not have needed to use our organization as an example.
Carrie States: So let me start at the beginning. I, Carrie Young, have been on disablity for two and half yrs. (I have always worked until my health took a turn for the worse. I was diagnosed with a few diseases.) A disabilty that is “SILENT” Chronic fatigue, and fymbermalgia,and a few other little issues.. I have good days and I have bad days. When there are good days, I can function normal, when there are bad days I have to stay in bed or spend a good part of it in bed.
FIBROMYALGIA is a disease that is silent alright. It takes at least 5 years to get a proper diagnosis because there are so many symptoms that mimic other diseases. A diagnosis can only be given by physical examination of pressure points and the patient stating if it is tender in these areas. There are no ultrasounds, CT scans, or x-rays that can detect this disease. It is simply word of mouth from the patient. Fibromyalgia is not typically a disease that permanently debilitates people and can be regulated with proper diet and medications. Only an extreme case with severe debilitation would require one to be diagnosed with permanent disability. And like I mentioned before, this can only be detected by one’s history of how severe their condition or pain is.
Carrie States: With all the volunteers here, this makes Ohana be able to still function as a safe haven for the horses.
Days I have worked myself sick, now to the normal person, that could amount to ten hours straight, to a person that has SILENT diseases, this could mean two hours. But nevertheless, it happens. Those who suffer from this disease will and can understand this, and will be able to understand just how much these horses mean to me, because my health is often forgot about and I put my heart into it…sleeping in stalls with sick horses..but wait, I am laying down reading a book to a sick horse…resting…disabilities does NOT say where you can lie down.
I know my body and my limits, and I know when to stop, and if there is a sick horse here, and I need to sleep in a stall I will. SO SUE ME!!!
Well that is just what happened!! I am being ACCUSED of fraud (civil, not criminal) by social security because Domino Effect called and stated I ride horses, I groom horses, I bath horses, I train horses, I break horses…I break up two dangerous stallions single handedly and I run this HUGE WELL KNOWN Horse rescue…BY MYSELF.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I NEVER INITIATED a call to SSI. I told the investigator that I had NO recollection that you were on disability. I also told her that Carrie Young does NOT appear to be disabled nor have I ever seen her in a wheelchair or use assisted devices. I told her that I have seen you active on FB talking about the activities you do on a daily basis and seeing pictures of the things that Social Security claims you said that you could NOT do.
Carrie States: So for the last two days I have been sitting in court, without an attorney fighting for my reputation. You know I say this, take away the few dollars I get from disability, but I am not a fraud. I have doctors letters, statements from ADA about the SILENT DISEASE that I suffer from. I have been fighting this by myself for a yr, writing briefs, filing motions, acting as my own attorney. HEY WHY NOT HIRE AN ATTORNEY some might ask. Sounded good a lot of times, so did giving up, or settling out of court, but then I look into the eyes of the horses that are here. So needless to say, I am fighting this alone. Oh yes, I could most likely borrow the monies from my parents, but would have to pay it back, and in doing that, I would still have to QUIT rescueing horses…because YES I get a disability check but instead of using it for say…tv service, eating out, buying clothes, every dime goes to the horses. So paying back a loan would take from the horses. So I sit alone in my fear of fighting the devil, Domino Effect…I know the Lord is carrying me, but sometimes this battle gets pretty ugly between good and evil.
Carrie Young I am here to tell the truth and that happens to be your WORST NIGHTMARE, but does not classify me as the devil, LOL.
Carrie States: So there I sit yesterday in court, cross examing Dinelle Ashcraft, acting as my own attorney, listening to her tell the judge that they spend 700 a week to feed the horses, how much her and her husband do for the horses.
My statement to be exact: I was asked how much we spent to feed the horses when we had on average 25 horses. I told them approximately $700 and this is the truth. I look forward to seeing those transcripts Carrie Young.
Carrie States: That they have a trainer in 4 days a week to train the untrained horses…
Carrie Young you are a liar. I said that we have a trainer that comes out 1 day a week to work with the horses and to work with me.
Carrie States: The judge asked her…YOU DO NOT LIKE CARRIE YOUNG, DO YOU, she replied NO, YOU DO NOT CARE FOR CARRIE YOUNG, DO YOU, she replied NO, YOU BLAME CARRIE YOUNG FOR ALL YOUR LEGAL ISSUES, DONT YOU, she replied YES, her and her friend.
Carrie Young you are a liar. He asked me if I blamed you for losing 1 court battle. I told him NO that you had nothing to do with it. PLEASE be sure to posts those transcripts, so that we can document the TRUTH!!!
Carrie States: I left it alone, for I felt that was perfect. The judge was also impressed when Dinelle said she could move a roll 900 lbs of hay alone.
Carrie Young YOU are telling the TRUTH!!! It was quite humorous that the white collar world didn’t have a clue as to rural mechanics. I am NOT a big girl by any means, but I absolutely can push a 900 pound roll of hay. I didn’t realize this was a difficult task. I guess I have the hand of God helping me and just thought that I was working alone.
Carrie States: The last thing that the judge said to Dinelle Ashcraft was…DO NOT DISCUSS THIS CASE…..well, we all know that Dinelle is above the law.
Carrie Young you are a liar. He told me NOT to discuss the case with the witnesses or the witnesses waiting in the waiting room before I left. Once again, I look forward to seeing the documentation of those transcripts proving what was said. I always have documentation to prove the truth. How come you NEVER have documentation proving that anything I say is a lie???
Carrie States: Tonight Dinelle is doing what she does best…spinmaster…sending links to her newest blog…
Carrie Young is telling the TRUTH!!! I do keep all information and documentation of many horrible deeds by Carrie Young and others affiliated in their hate group against us.
Carrie States: Dinelle stating that she spent all day in court yesterday testifying against Carrie Young, because Carrie Young told Social Security she used a wheelchair..SAY WHAT?
First of all, I have fymberlagia, and chronic fatigue, and a few other SILENT DISEASES, no where did I ever say I used a wheel chair..and didnt the judge tell her not to discuss this until case?
So I am putting it out there…I am being ACCUSED by social security for fraud. Fraud because I told them I spend a lot of time lieing down. No where did I put that I stayed in bed 10 hours a day, or used a wheelchair. No where did I say I did not have good days or bad days. I am being ACCUSED because Dinelle Ashcraft from Domino Effect Rescue spends everyday trying to close down Ohana, while we spend everyday trying to keep it open.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I have done NOTHING to shut you down, you can NOT honestly say the same. Where is your proof? I actually felt sorry for you the other day and wanted to leave you alone. I would have left you alone until you lied under oath, used the hearing as a way to smear us, and then called us the devil on Beverly Levitt’s post. Bob and I travel past your place while delivering and picking up horses. I don’t have time to stalk you in my busy schedule with school and taking care of the horses. I AM NOT DISABLED and my plate is FULL. I am NOT a liar and I will NOT tolerate your lies any more. If you want me out of your life, then stop lying, stop harassing and stalking me, stop personal messaging lies to my Facebook friends, stop calling agencies against us, and keep my name out of your mouth.
Carrie States: The case will not be settled until after the transcripts are produced to me giving me 30 days to write my closing brief, at which time the judge will make his decision..If I screwed up this case by acting as my own attorney, that is ok, the horses are still eating, and still being loved on and they still have a safe haven…oh yes, the truck that was donated to me, Domino told social security that I was draining the rescue of donations to make the payments on the brand new truck, oh and rumor has it Ohana pays close to 3500.00 a month for this piece of property… all of which I have proof is a lie.
Carrie Young you are a liar. I had NO idea that you were on disability. I know NO personal information about your overhead or personal vehicles. This is why my testimony was weak because I know absolutely NOTHING about your personal life because I avoid you at all cost.
Carrie States: Whatever the outcome, disability will never be in my life again. If I have to take pain pills every day to overcome the pain that I will have to live with because I wont have time to rest, then that is what it will be….I am not a fraud, I have been on the back of a horse two times in the last two yrs…GOOD DAYS….I wonder what I can do with taking pain pills everyday. Run two horse rescues at the same time? As it is now, I take pain pills when I get up and there is no chronic fatigue hitting me, because if I have CFS during the day and I take a pain pill for the FMS, then I am out like a light…
So next into this mess, walks a dear friend of Domino, a woman by the name of Hannah Farrell. ( Gentle Souls Rescue) She starts spreading rumors, calling people around the state trying to get others to call in and make false allegations… now everything I am posting, I have screen shots of, and phone calls from those that know that I am not a fraud to forewarn me of what is being done behind my back, in an attempt to close down Ohana Rescue.
Where is your proof Carrie Young???
Carrie States: They say that when you do good, you ALWAYS have evil at your back door.
WRONG, when you hurt people and lie about them and your daily events, it comes back on you full circle. Bad things are NOT happening to you because you are doing good, bad things are happening to you because you are a liar.
Carrie States: Many close to me know what is going on in my life, but now I am putting it out there for the world to know. I Carrie Young have lived my life being honest, compassionate, and caring, and I will not stop living my life helping the horses because there are a bunch of trouble makers out there.
I am NOT a troublemaker, BUT I have had trouble made for me by you for a long time. I have had enough and will NOT tolerate your lies any more.
Notice how you always play the victim and act like everyone is always out to get you? Just like you went in and took those horses from Archers without the owner knowing and then took the glory as if you saved the day. And then took the liberty to trash that rescue and put them beneath your feet.
Carrie States: If people feel that they can no longer trust me because I am being ACCUSED of being a fraud, then I have not lived my life right, because those that know me, know I would not do something as this.
I, Carrie Young am fighting a very evil entity right now, and I will say this…THERE ARE ONLY ONE SET OF FOOT PRINTS IN THE SAND, and what happens is HIS way, I DO NOT NEED MY DISABILTY CHECK TO KEEP OHANA OPEN.
I honestly believe that you have a great opportunity to succeed. You have a beautiful piece of property, good support, and seem to be doing well. I do NOT understand why you feel it is necessary to tear others down around you. I do NOT understand why you feel the need to lie about others and yourself. You would have a lot less animosity in your life if you would just mind your own business and stop trying to hurt everyone.
“Note: All quotes are medical literature found on the following 2 sites regarding educational information on liver disease, liver failure, and HE hepatic encephalopathy.”
Justice has been down a long road and has finally been laid down to rest.
Justice was seized from a family and sent to Florida Equine Rescue back in October 2011. Justice came in to FER in an emaciated condition. At the beginning of this year, FER had been shut down and the Walsh’s were charged with animal cruelty. Hannah Farrell found placement for the horses that had resided at FER. Justice was being held by Hendry County as evidence until the court proceedings were final. After this, Justice was then placed at Gallops Stables “A Stable Place” in North Ft. Myers, where he resided for several months.
Justice came to us just 10 days prior before we laid him to rest.
Each day that Justice was in our care his symptoms progressed. He arrived very lethargic and depressed.
His stools were loose with diarrhea. Within the first 2 days we noticed that he had no appetite. We also noticed that he was pinching the top layer of feed with his lips. Bob checked under his lips and found ulcers in his mouth.
At the same time, he was noticed to have a bulge at the anus opening.
“Diarrhea or constipation may be seen in animals with hepatic disease. Diarrhea is more commonly seen in cattle than in horses with chronic liver disease or in animals with chronic fascioliasis and hepatotoxic plant poisonings.”
Bob immediately called the vet and scheduled him to come out first thing in the morning. Dr. Brian arrived to find Justice to have a protruding rectum. Dr. Brian had thought at the time that this was due to the excessive diarrhea. He was thought to have stomach ulcers, as well as the mouth ulcers. Dr. Brian floated Justice’s teeth and put him on ranitidine for the ulcers.
“Tenesmus followed by rectal prolapse is seen in some ruminants with liver disease. It may be associated with diarrhea, hepatic encephalopathy, or edema of the bowel from portal hypertension.”
The following day, the walls of Justice’s anus ruptured causing him to hemorrhage out his anal opening.
Bob called Dr. Brian out on a 911 call to check Justice. Dr. Brian gave him medications to stop the diarrhea and other medications to help restore the nutrients, electrolytes, and absorb any toxins that may be in his system. Dr. Brian also did blood work on Justice to check for any organ damage.
“Clinical signs of severe or terminal hepatic failure include coagulopathies and hemorrhage due to decreased production of clotting factors by the liver and possibly increased utilization in septic or inflammatory processes.”
Justice’s condition was quickly progressing. He was aimlessly walking, circling, head-pressing, and resting his head in our laps or on the steps. Justice’s condition accelerated to the point where he was suffering from HE (hepatic encephalopathy) with severe cerebral dysfunction causing him to be a great danger to himself and especially to others. First his front knees kept buckling underneath him and he would fall forward into the ground. This behavior became more violent, as he continuously lost control of his body, falling into anything or anyone that surrounded him. By the time we received the phone call with the test results, Justice’s condition was in the advanced stage of liver failure and within 24 hours we had to put Justice to rest.
“Horses with hepatic encephalopathy may be aggressive or demonstrate repetitive behaviors that make restraint difficult.”
“Signs of hepatic encephalopathy range from nonspecific depression and lethargy to head pressing, circling, aimless walking, dysphagia, ataxia, dysmetria, persistent yawning, pica, increased friendliness, aggressiveness, stupor, seizures, or coma.”
“In advanced cases, somnolence develops and obtunded behavior ensues. At this stage horses often show aggressive or violent behavior interspersed with the periods of stupor.”
After Justice’s diagnosis, we did some research concerning his condition. We learned that there were 8 horses that were seized from FER who suffered and died from liver failure due to eating poisonous plants out at FER. At the time the horses were seized from FER, a vet came out to update a coggins on each one of the horses. Justice had been seen to have “blood” in his urine prior to this, so his condition was described to the vet and the vet, therefore, prescribed an antibiotic for Justice without actually testing the urine.
After doing some research, I can’t help to wonder if this too was a sign. One of the symptoms of liver disease is high volumes of bilirubin being excreted through the urine causing it to be dark in color.
“In normal horses, the total bilirubin concentration is in the range of 0.2 to 5.0 mg/dL, with conjugated bilirubin in the range of 0 to 0.4 mg/dL. Conjugated bilirubin is water-soluble and detectable in the urine of horses only if blood concentrations become sufficiently increased to surpass the renal threshold (Photo 3); thus when urine tests positive for the presence of bilirubin, cholestatic disease should be suspected.”
We also learned that horses suffering from liver disease and/or liver failure should NOT have a diet high in protein, i.e. alfalfa pellets, cubes, or hay including other feeds that are high in protein, as this accelerates their condition.
“Affected animals should be fed carefully because dysphagia may be a problem. Relatively small amounts should be fed frequently. The diet should meet energy needs with readily digestible carbohydrates, provide adequate but not excessive protein, have a high ratio of branched-chain amino acids to aromatic amino acids, and be moderate to high in starch to decrease need for hepatic glucose synthesis.”
One very important factor that we learned through our research is that when a horse is suffering from liver disease, there may be no clinical signs of the liver disease until the liver has exceeded 60% to 80% damage. This is why it is so vital to draw blood on an equine when in question of poisonous plants or if the equine is suffering from emaciation to check for organ damage of any kind.
“Clinical signs of hepatic disease may not be evident until >60–80% of the liver parenchyma is nonfunctional or when hepatic dysfunction is secondary to disease in another organ system. “
“Liver disease should always be considered when nonspecific clinical signs, such as depression, weight loss, intermittent fever, and recurrent colic, are present without an apparent cause. Differentiation between acute and chronic hepatitis or failure based on the duration of clinical signs before presentation may be misleading, because the disease process is often advanced before clinical signs are evident. Early vague signs of depression and decreased appetite may be overlooked. Liver biopsy to determine the type of pathology, degree of hepatic fibrosis present, and the regenerative capabilities of the liver parenchyma is necessary for developing a treatment plan and giving an accurate prognosis.”
I can only wish that we could turn back time and had rescued Justice sooner. If only the blood work had been done a few months back, he could have been treated for the liver disease, and the liver, therefore, may have had a chance to repair itself.
But as we cannot turn back time, we DO NOT wish for Justice’s life to go in vain. We hope that Justice’s death will be a learning lesson for all to research on such poisonous plants that may be in your pastures and to treat every emaciated horse, as if there may be possible organ damage due to the starvation, and PLEASE have blood drawn to insure the best care for your equine’s future.
Please check out the links below, as there is very important, vital information regarding poisonous plants, liver failure, and hepatic encephalopathy.
Please go to the following link and check your pastures for these weeds that are VERY toxic to our equine. The results are “liver failure”. Please understand that the liver WILL NOT SHOW clinical signs of damage until it is 75% damaged. At that point in time, the chances of the liver healing itself are very slim to none. That is why receipt of an emaciated horse, should be followed with BLOODWORK IMMEDIATELY!
Failure to do so could result in an acceleration of damage to the liver by feeding TOO much protein before its time.
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